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| Anonymous | economic temperature | 1 | Aug 25 2010, 3:41 PM EDT by Sadi-Carnot | ||
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Thread started: Aug 25 2010, 11:49 AM EDT
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economist Paul Krugman uses the term 'overheated' for some economic systems, in the book: The Return of Depression Economics pages: 37, 89
tempeature is a function of heat( energy) in physics, in economics, energy or available energy ( exergy) is a measurable quantity for a society or an economic system, and temperature must be a function of available energy for a definite period (for a year) in an economic system, money, GNP, is a function of production, therefore money supply for a definite period, is equivalent of economic system's temperature. but if money supply increases continously , such as printing money for paying government debts, this is inflation and crysis for long run, economic crysis are an entropic crysis, countries fighting for energy (oil, natural gas, etc..) if entropy of an economic system increases, economic crysis is unavoidable, economic temperature may be thought as money (per capita-per year) , and if a country rich (high temperature) or poor (low temperature) and absolute zero is absolute poorness.(money = 0) pertev dural |
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| Anonymous | Extending the definition of Temperature | 2 | Aug 31 2009, 5:33 PM EDT by Petrologist | ||
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Thread started: Aug 30 2009, 9:03 PM EDT
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Having returned to the last e-mail sent, there is a second new video. Because I can't view Flash at the moment, I read the article, which took me to this General Discussion.
Temperature, I can understand, would be difficult to extend to a more subjective field of study than physical or natural science. I've a suggestion, though. (The definition above could use a few more qualifications (partial derivatives) to insure the system doesn't perform work.) First, to a mathematician, a definition allows an object to be recognized in whatever form it may appear. The natural scientist might try to list properties necessary & sufficient to be 'temperature'; but this is next to impossible. It's a measure of hotness. When two objects are in thermal equilibrium, their temperatures are the same. All this is rather vague & circular. The more positivist scientist defines an object by defining the operation he uses to measure or observe it. In thermodynamics, volume is primitive. One might define temperature as the volume change in a sealed, thermally conducting tube of liquid. The scales can be defined by two triple points of phases and a hundred little marks between. This concept can be sharpened by 'absolute temperature'. Even thermodynamics, however, contains concepts that elude such a concrete definition: energy, isolated system, &c. Things that P.W. Bridgman has called 'paper & pencil operations': logical consequences of definitions & axioms. For these, I fall back upon listing properties in the manner of C.S. Pierce. Pierce's suggestion, for 'How to Make your Ideas Clear', seems more penetrating. 'Consider what effects, that might conceivably have practical bearings, we conceive the object of our conception to have. Then, our conception of these effects is the whole of our conception of the object.' Petrologist |
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