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| A typical genus poster, depicting archetypical geniuses: Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, Nikola Tesla, and Leonardo da Vinci, a group representative of the motto: “a genius is someone who has mastered certain principles and ways of conducting themselves, so that they can achieve any desire they want—because there are certain laws at work which we are not aware of, yet which the genius has discovered through trial and error.” [6] |
“The first and last thing which is required of genius is the love of truth.”– Johann Goethe, a last universal genius [7]
See main: Genius IQs (ranking of the top 1000 geniuses)The standard numerical value for the classification of a genius IQ is the standard Terman definition of an IQ at or above 140, as listed below, along with other noted assignment criterion proposals and definitions: [2]
IQ = 125+ Catherine Cox definition (1926)
IQ = 140+ Lewis Terman definition (c.1917)
IQ = 140+ Tony Buzan definition (1994)
IQ = 145+ Ronald Hoeflin definition (1982)
IQ = 160+ Leta Hollingworth definition (c.1930)
See main: Universal genius; Last universal genius; Last person who knew everythingA rare few are considered as universal geniuses, being one with a universal mastery of knowledge, Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519), the one to whom this eponym is generally assigned. The so-called "last universal genius", frequently mentioned include: Gottfried Leibniz (1646-1716), and Johann Goethe (1749-1832), Goethe being the preeminent example of this group:
“Goethe comes as close to deserving the title of a universal genius as any man who has ever lived.”
“Scholars agree that Goethe was the last universal genius: practically nothing within reach of the human mind escaped his attention.”
“The middle of the eighteenth century witnessed the first powerful revolt against cultural tradition, which is marked by Rousseau. This tradition was restarted by universal genius Goethe. But it was restarted for the last time. Goethe had not been succeeded by another universal genius.”“Since my method is juxtaposition, I delight in bringing together universal genius Goethe, with Sigmund Freud, Samuel Johnson, and Thomas Mann.”
See main: Two cultures geniusA turning pointing or rather breaking point in the so-called grasp of the universality of knowledge at the genius level can be said to have occurred or typified in the 1833 Whewell-Coleridge debate after which the term "scientist" was coined over the older term "natural philosopher". This rift is captured well in American literature scholarFrederick Burwick's 1986 discussion of this growing rift, in the framework of Goethe's Faust:
“The age of Faust [1772-1832] had been the age of the ‘Renaissance man’, a time when the possibility of a universal knowledge, mastery of the arts and sciences, still seemed to be open to the ambitious mind;thereafter the separation and dispersion of intellectual endeavors, dubbed the ‘two cultures’ by C.P. Snow,resulted; whereafter, in the decades to follow, individuals such as Thomas Young (1773-1829), Humphry Davy (1778-1829),and William Hamilton (1805-1865), could all make serious claims to humanistic breadth, if not universality, in their intellectual accomplishments; nevertheless, a rift between the arts and the sciences was evident.”
See main: Terman IQ; Mega test IQ; etc.A second, albeit less accurate, method is the IQ test method, wherein one is labeled as a ‘genius’ based on an IQ test score or group of IQ test scores. This method, however, often tends to be filled with error.
See also: real geniusNoted traits of true geniuses, such as Albert Einstein or Thomas Young, are firstly the trait of tending to process knowledge at a slower rate, then as compared to the tendency to pass over and assimilate given knowledge at a high rate of speed as being assumed correct. Young comments on this in his autobiographical sketch about himself: [3]
“Though he wrote with rapidity, he read but slowly, and perhaps the whole list of the works that he studied, in the course of 50 years, does not amount to more than a thousand volumes.”
“Scientific investigations are a sort of warfare, carried on in the closet or on the couch against all one’s contemporaries and predecessors; I have often gained a single victory when I have been half asleep, but more frequently found, on being thoroughly awake, that the enemy had still the advantage of me when I thought I had him fast in a corner.”
“I have little patience for scientists who take on a board of wood, look for its thinnest part, and drill a great number of holes when the drilling is easy.”
The following are noted genius quotes:
“Sporadic great men come everywhere. But for a community to get vibrating through and through with intensely active life, many geniuses coming together and in rapid succession are required. This is why great epochs are so rare, - why the sudden bloom of a Greece, an early Rome, a Renaissance, is such a mystery. Blow must follow blow so fast that no cooling can occur in the intervals. Then the mass of the nation glows incandescent, and may continue to glow by pure inertia long after the originators of its internal movement have passed away. We often hear surprise expressed that in these high tides of human affairs not only the people should be filled with stronger life, but that individual geniuses should seem so exceptionally abundant. This mystery is just about as deep as the time-honored conundrum as to why great rivers flow by great towns. It is true that great public fermentations awaken and adopt many geniuses who in more torpid times would have had no chance to work. But over and above this there must be an exceptional concourse of genius about a time, to make the fermentation begin at all. The unlikeliness of the concourse is far greater than the unlikeliness of any particular genius; hence the rarity of these periods and the exceptional aspect which they always wear.”— William James (IQ=?), American psychologist
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| Anonymous | genius is slow? | 1 | Mar 29 2012, 11:15 AM EDT by Sadi-Carnot | ||
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perhaps on the surface some geniuses seem slow. I believe the apparent slowness stems from constant daydreaming, and is not indicative of any slower processing.
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| Anonymous | Sorry | 1 | Nov 20 2011, 2:42 AM EST by Sadi-Carnot | ||
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A polymath is not really a world-changing genius. Rowan Williams still believes in fairy tales. Also; this page sees memorizing pi digits or graduating from college as something special when done at a young age, in reality it is not. It may indicate a later career in chess or mathematics but not what it it takes to change the world views of the scientific community by proving theories that rewrites history. Not many have done so far and not many prodigies on the list will ever do. In later times we saw some hope in Sagan or Asimov or Minsky but they were just popularizing known ideas really, later years Witten Tao Perelman etc have been close to some breakthrough but really has not done much of a difference. Why? Because the total output of a group or community equipped with modern technology is far higher than a single persons capacity do do anything really useful in terms of turning over the true findings of understanding our present surroundings, its history and future. Since Einstein no one has really matched that ability and before him Newton and Darwin did (although in more limited way) most of the work worth mentioning. Goethe never made any valid scientific milestone apart from some addition to color theory and optics. There is also a main difference between a potential and actually getting anywhere. The next step will be sorting out the details in life evolving seeing it as general cooperative systems of units, also sorting out the next level of cosmology understanding viewed as in space-time fabric fundamental setting. Then humanity may move to a next step given enough energy supply. The overall level of functioning can be raised dramatically higher than todays standard. For breeding not given that the measurements in use give the better results later in chain. Biology may provide tech models for solving bottleneck limits. In short; next mayor breakthrough may come from a semi-surprising spot and as usual not necessarily from where the light is set.
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| Anonymous | what is the definition of genius | 3 | Mar 11 2011, 2:23 AM EST by Anonymous | ||
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Most IQ tests are culturally biased and require language skills. For a person not familiar with language and culture, even though intelligent , he/she may fail to get the best score he /she capable of. Does genius means fast processing of information, as one needs in taking these tests, then computer may be the most genius of all. What about those who are slow thinkers, that would not do so well in an IQ tests, but have big dreams that no one can match their ability to predict events or come up with innovative ideas and groundbreaking discoveries. Do we know really how brain works and in how many ways it may demonstrate its peculiar talents. And who is to say that a particular talent is superior to the other talents. Is an IQ test result the only criteria to represent a brilliant mind. I do not think so.
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