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| Anonymous | i want more information | Newton’s law of cooling | 0 | Tuesday, 6:06 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
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| Anonymous | The photo at the poetry reading | Jeremy Adler | 1 | Monday, 8:36 AM EDT by Sadi-Carnot | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 5 2010, 4:34 PM EST
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This is in fact a photo of Professor Adler, who has always written poetry as his second string, and has attended many readings. This is what he looked like at that age, c.1977.
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| Anonymous | Who is the greatest genius( or greatest man) ever? | IQ: 200+ | 1 | Sunday, 8:47 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 9 2010, 4:41 PM EST
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Flynn efect problem
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/Cox300.aspx
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| Anonymous | Marnen Laibow-Koser | IQ: 200+ | 3 | Saturday, 3:20 AM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 10 2010, 6:48 PM EST
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What is the source for this guy's IQ? As I recall it was pretty flimsy(just based on rumor)?
Again the only person that you have listed that can be officially documented as having a 200+ IQ(ratio or not) in timed supervised IQ is Vos Savant. I suppose that the reference to Adrian Seng was pretty specific where it specifically mentions "“at age of 6 years he was assessed on the Stanford-Binet and was found to have a mental age of 14, " but even there its not as specific as the with Vos Savant where know the specific date she took the test and the specific age ceiling(down to the month even) that the test measured. suggestion. Maybe you might want to break the references to IQ in more than one column. Have one column for unverified rumored IQs. Another one for estimated IQs from COx. Another column for estimated IQ based on Buzan. Another one for verified ratio IQs based on timed supervised tests. Another one for verified adult deviation IQs in timed supervised IQs and finally a column for verified deviation IQs based on unsupervised and untimed tests like the Mega. Theoretically the highest weight in my opinion should be given to the 2nd to the last(probably the hardest to find) which would be verified adult deviation IQs in timed supervised IQs For any person listed who doesn't have a listing under any of those columns just put NA.
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| Anonymous | what is the definition of genius | Discussion Forum | 2 | Saturday, 1:12 AM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Most IQ tests are culturally biased and require language skills. For a person not familiar with language and culture, even though intelligent , he/she may fail to get the best score he /she capable of. Does genius means fast processing of information, as one needs in taking these tests, then computer may be the most genius of all. What about those who are slow thinkers, that would not do so well in an IQ tests, but have big dreams that no one can match their ability to predict events or come up with innovative ideas and groundbreaking discoveries. Do we know really how brain works and in how many ways it may demonstrate its peculiar talents. And who is to say that a particular talent is superior to the other talents. Is an IQ test result the only criteria to represent a brilliant mind. I do not think so.
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| Anonymous | Goethe, Math & universal Genius | IQ: 200+ | 18 | Saturday, 1:05 AM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 5 2010, 1:04 PM EST
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This quote caught my eye: “mathematics was Goethe’s greatest blind spot; he lacked any real mathematical expertise, and though he once attempted to master algebra, he was forced to admit that it was incompatible with his nature”".
HMMMM. Hard for me to think someone could be called a universal genius and have people estimate his IQ in the 210 range and not have even mastered Algebra. I suppose its possible but not very probable IMO.
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| Anonymous | Mislav Predavec | IQ: 200+ | 11 | Saturday, 12:46 AM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 2 2010, 2:58 PM EST
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Here is another thats needs to be looked at. Now there is nothing impressive about him
academically but this guy consistently beats everyone (with the exception of one person who beat him by 1 point on one test) on these ultra difficult untimed and unsupervised pattern recognition "IQ" tests(numerical sequence and visual patterns). I put "IQ" in quotes because they are untimed and unsupervised but at least are probably more reliable than say the Mega test because they are free of cultural bias. Also to be realistic it wouldn't be practical to put these questions in a timed test because of their difficulty. Anyway here are the score lists for various tests he took where you can see how he compare to others(some include Giga society members in which he beats them. Of course the whole "Giga society" thing is a whole other topic). http://scores.generiq.net/slse-I.html http://scores.generiq.net/slse-II.html http://scores.generiq.net/ls60.html http://scores.generiq.net/lshr.html http://scores.generiq.net/numerus.html http://scores.generiq.net/analytica.html http://scores.generiq.net/foritensum.html (tied for 1st on this one) http://scores.generiq.net/slse48.html (only one he wasn't #1) There is an article called "legacy of logical art" by Jonathon Wai in the following link that talks about one of these tests in particular and Mislav Predavec (also some other articles as well) http://winone.iqsociety.org/issues/04.pdf
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| Anonymous | Rick Rossner's IQ | IQ: 200+ | 5 | Mar 11 2010, 7:14 PM EST by Sadi-Carnot | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 10 2010, 1:35 PM EST
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Again those scores (180-250) are based on the Mega test and Ron Hoeflin's norm which some believe are too high. The 250 is a ratio score. Now Rosner's scores are much lower more conventional times IQ's are used. For example Rick Rosner said the following: "But I
got permission to examine my school records and discovered that my IQ wasn't even that lovable. Most of my scores were in the 140's--not high enough to justify the special destiny I imagined." http://www.megasociety.net/noesis/57.htm From the same link he said he got a 170 on another untimed test called the LAIT "Though a born-again dumb person, I was still a sucker for IQ tests, and Kevin Langdon's Adult Intelligence Test was a welcome excuse to ignore coursework. It's a multiple choice test, and, since I couldn't decide between two answers on one verbal problem, I submitted answer sheets under two different names. Apparently one answer sheet was lost, but the report I received gave me a score of 170, not far from the test's ceiling. " On the SAT he got 1540 in High school and a 1580 that he took in his 20's when he was pulling those stunts going back to high school which both correspond to an IQ in the 160's.. You can kind of deduce what Rosner got on his SAT's from this 2 links. http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/titandata/titan_sat_pairs.txt http://www.prometheussociety.org/mcreport/memb_comm_rept.html#8.5%20Scholastic%20Aptitude%20Test%20%28SAT%29%20--%20the%20data%20and He was the only to get a perfect 48 out of 48 on the Titan so that corresponds to a 800 verbal and 780 math that you see in the above link which corresponds to a combined SAT of 1580 which corresponds to an estimated IQ of 166(http://www.braingle.com/mind/iq/convert.php).
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| Anonymous | I think some of the names listed should be purged (page: 1 2) | IQ: 200+ | 21 | Mar 8 2010, 10:33 PM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 21 2010, 3:04 AM EST
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This Adragon De Mello having a 400 IQ even if its a ratio? Please. The score apparently comes from a Adragon De Mello
dad giving him a test and then calculation it. There is also apparently a lot of myth about Sidis's supposed 250-300 IQ with no factual evidence to back that claim up let alone a test that could measure that high. I'm also interested in the particulars of how Michael Kearney's ratio IQ was caculated(beyond the general concept of mental age * 100/chron age). I'm also interested in what specific tests Terence Tao and Chris Hirata took to reach those scores. Having that Chris Hirata and Terence Tao are both the real deal as far as super high intelligence goes. I think those two deserve to be on this lists about as much as anyone because unlike most prodigies they have carried their talent into adulthood big time (especially Terence Tao). I also believe Kim Ung-Yong deserves high praise as well.
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| Anonymous | Sad Loss 1922 - 2010 | Peter Landsberg | 1 | Mar 7 2010, 9:59 AM EST by Sadi-Carnot | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 7 2010, 5:54 AM EST
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I knew only met Peter in the last year of his life and spent time with him and his wife not only was this man hugely intelligent but he had a unbelievable sense of humor and my thoughts are with his wife and family.
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| Anonymous | IQBAL SALEH ABBA | IQ: 200+ | 1 | Mar 7 2010, 9:37 AM EST by Sadi-Carnot | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 6 2010, 2:00 PM EST
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MR.IQBAL SALEH IS ALIVE AND LIVES IN NEW YORK, USA. HE IS KNOWN TO BE A RECLUSE AND DOES NOT SEEL ACTIVE PUBLICITY. HOWEVER, THE GUINNES BOOK MAY HAVE HIS ADDRESS
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| Anonymous | Oh ya Sho Yano | IQ: 200+ | 9 | Mar 6 2010, 1:05 PM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 21 2010, 3:26 AM EST
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This prodigy deserves special mention. Scoring a 1500 on the SAT at age 8?
Huh? and an MCAT score of 37(might have been higher. like 42) at age 8. PHD in molecular genetics at age 18. BTW an 1500 SAT is estimated to be equivalent to an adult IQ of 158(http://www.braingle.com/mind/iq/convert.php) and so a ratio IQ would be 158 *100/8 which = 1975). WOWW!!, Well actually,. As the site said:"this is only an estimate. Proper testing by a qualified professional is the only way to get an accurate IQ score. Also, keep in mind that for very high and very low scores, our estimates are less reliable.". I think this is even more true for the SAT after 1996 but still that should is just incredible that an someone age 8 could score so high on the SAT. Along the same lines another name that is not mentioned here (who became the youngest person ever to get a perfect 1600 SAT score back in 1999 at age 12) is someone by the name of Vinodhini Vasudevan.
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| Anonymous | List of 7 people | IQ: 200+ | 1 | Mar 5 2010, 4:08 PM EST by Sadi-Carnot | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 5 2010, 1:05 PM EST
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Baruch Spinoza
Immanuel Kant Friedrich Nietzsche Marie Curie Norbert Wiener Bertrand Russell John Bardeen Of those 7 which two do you think have the most impressive intellect?
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| Anonymous | Some other people you might want to add to your list | IQ: 200+ | 0 | Mar 5 2010, 1:04 PM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 5 2010, 1:04 PM EST
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Lenhard Ng who scored a perfect 800 on the math portion of the SAT on
age 10. Also at "the age of 14, he participated in the International Mathematical Olympiad and earned a Silver medal [3]. He participated in this competition for the next two years and earned Gold medals." He is now a professor of Math a Duke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenhard_Ng Here is a link on someone who passed the California law bar exam at age 18 http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/11/19/18-year-old-kathleen-holtz-passes-the-california-bar/tab/article/ Here a link on someone who graduated from law school at 16 http://www.nytimes.com/1988/08/20/nyregion/lawyer-19-must-wait-for-the-bar.html?pagewanted=1 and yet another link on another boy "genius" (well we will see) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219368/The-boy-aged-Einsteins-IQ-Why-little-Oscar-Britains-youngest-boy-accepted-Mensa.html |
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| Anonymous | Chris Langan's IQ | IQ: 200+ | 10 | Mar 3 2010, 4:06 PM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 2 2010, 2:20 PM EST
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Ok I feel I need to make a post about this because there seems to be a lot of disinformation out on the web about
this. First of all most estimated you find on the web list his IQ between 195-210 which makes no sense at all. First his IQ estimates are based on his taking the Mega test and in particular a 2nd attempt at the mega test under the pseudonym Eric Hart in he got 47 out of 48(he got 42 out of 48 in his 1st attempt). Aside from the fact that probably most psychometricians wouldn't look at the Mega test as valid IQ test because its untimed and unsupervised(and maybe also because somewhat independent on cultural) the IQ range of 195-210 doesn't seem to fit the norming of the Mega Test even if we use Langan's 2nd attempt and not his lower 1st attempt. According to the norming done by the tests designer(Ronald Hoeflin) a 47 would correspond to an IQ of 190 (STD 16): http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/meganorm.html On the other hand there is another norming by Grady Towers who puts a 47 as equivalent to an IQ 0f 200. http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/megadata/gradynorm.html Then apparently there is other information that from another norm that puts the ceiling lower than these two(something 10 to 11 points lower than the norming from Ronald Hoeflin. The following is an exchange by fellow mega society members Paul Johns and Kevin Langdon. "> Marilyn vos Savant's score of 218 (at 10 years) would reduce to > an adult score of IQ 179 [indeed, her score on the Mega Test > was IQ 186]. > Paul Johns That was not a correct estimate of her IQ given her raw score on the Mega and a reasonable statistical treatment of the data. Her Mega score converts to approximately 175 or 176, the mega level, which is still not too shabby."
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| Anonymous | Evangelos Katsioulis | IQ: 200+ | 1 | Mar 2 2010, 3:30 PM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 2 2010, 3:29 PM EST
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Here is another really impressive individual. Aside from his impressive education (which can be
seen here: http://civ.iqsociety.org/?page_id=16) he consistently scores high on many different "IQ" tests including some of his best here http://www.katsioulis.com/?page_id=125 It should be noted that some of those listed above are actually traditional supervised and timed IQ tests (Cattell Culture Fair III A+B and the Weschler Adult Intelligence Scale). Also while the two tests given by the Cerebrals Society are untimed and unsupervised they apparently both correlate very well with traditional IQ test(much better corrlation than say the Mega and Titan test). as for the test in which he got a 196 deviation IQ (Qoymans Multiple Choice #3) which was the test that qualified him to be in the Giga society(again which is an entire discussion in itself. I think its absurd), well it was an untimed and unsupervised test by Paul Cooijman but Paul Cooijman's test's supposedly don't correlate very well with traditional IQ tests like WAIS,stanford-binet and Cattel. Now those are his best performances on test(his taken something like 30) so he has scored lower such as on this untimed and unsupervised one in which he got 11 out of 30 corresponding to an IQ of 155. http://scores.generiq.net/slse-II.html as you can see Mislav Predavec got 10 more questions correct than Evangelos here is the actual test(numerical sequence) http://www.iq-tests-for-the-high-range.com/slse2.html
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| Anonymous | Nik Lygeros | IQ: 200+ | 0 | Mar 2 2010, 2:42 PM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 2 2010, 2:42 PM EST
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Here is someone that is really really impressive. Aside from apparently having a verified IQ of 189 from the
stanford-binet(don't know if thats a ratio score or not) he has two PhDs. One in pure mathematics and the other in Greek Literature. Supposedly has another degree in inlinguistics too. Aside from all of that is "A prolific essayist in mathematics, he also writes poetry, scripts, novels and essays on politics, philosophy, history, tragedy and drama." http://www.lygeros.org/Interviews/OdysseyMagazine_20030417.html http://www.cerebrals.com/members.php?id=5 |
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| Sadi-Carnot | New JHT article (2010): Energetics of Consciousness | Journal of Human Thermodynamics | 0 | Mar 2 2010, 9:20 AM EST by Sadi-Carnot | ||||
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The JHT article "A Proposal for Testing the Energetics of Consciousness of Consciousness and its Physical Foundation" was published today:
http://humanthermodynamics.com/A_Proposal_for_Testing_the_Energetics_of_Consciousness__JHT_.pdf Comments and discussion are welcome: |
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| Anonymous | Michael Kearney 325 ratio score | IQ: 200+ | 0 | Feb 27 2010, 2:59 PM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 27 2010, 2:59 PM EST
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the only way that could work out to 325 is if the actual ceiling for that test was a mental age of 13.
If you assume that it would come out to 325. Mental age * 100/chron age = 13 * 100/4 = 325. I do seem to recall some IQ tests for children (like the WISC) have an age range between 6-16 so maybe the stanford-binet test Kearney took had an age range between 6-13. Just speculating of course. |
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| Anonymous | Buzan’s and Cox's list | IQ: 200+ | 1 | Feb 25 2010, 11:20 PM EST by Sadi-Carnot | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 25 2010, 10:48 PM EST
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I notice there doesn't seem to be too many physicists and mathmaticians relatively speaking (where is maxwell,Gelli Mann,Edward Witten,Gauss or Bardeen(only person ever to win 2 nobel prizes in physics) for example). I guess in the case of COX many of those people came later but its not much of an excuse for Buzan. To me thats a red flag and makes those lists not as credible as they could
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