American thinker Libb Thims’ 2015 About.me profile, wherein he self-labels as an “electrochemical atheist”, captioned with the mention that in 2014 he began to engage in “extreme atheism” of the Feuerbach, Buchner, Nietzsche variety; the image shown being a screenshot of Thims’ 2013 NIU lecture to engineering students on Goethe and human chemical thermodynamics, doing the ball-and-ring experiment, to explain social volume expansion and contraction, in front of a lecture slide showing French philosopher Jean Sales, the person who introduced the human molecular hypothesis, and who in 1770 exchanged views with Voltaire on Baron d’Holbach’s System of Nature, aka the “Atheist’s bible”; Thims’ 2002 human molecular formula work, also shown on the lecture screen, was cited in 2013 as a god disproof. [1] |
1. Goetheanism→ Physicochemical atheism2. Holbachian atheism
3. Schopenhauerian atheism
4. Buchnerian atheism
5. Ostwaldian atheism
6. Nietzschean atheism
“Re: “religion and science growing together”, while on this premise of yours, i.e. that religion and science are merging, what branch of science explains the operation of the flying horse (buraq) (Ѻ) that Muhammad used to fly from Mecca to Jerusalem and back in one night?
Also, do you believe, as a grown adult, in the existence of flying horses? I’ve taken a course in aerospace engineering, and I don’t recall hearing about the operation of the burag? I don’t mean to ridicule you here, but as you say, each sura of the Quran is accurate, being that it has been copied by scribes, verbatim, from the mind of Allah, to the ears of Muhammad, to the modern reader; hence, Sura 17, aka “The Night Journey”, should be a true story in your mind, if I am not mistaken. Hence, I just want to clarify if it is just winged horses you believe in, or also other mythological horses, e.g. unicorns?
To give you some comparison, Johannes Kepler, in the 17th century, believed in the existence of planets ridden by “winged angels” causing them to move. Hence, you might, likewise, presently believe in “winged horses”? This, by no means, to note, is an issue embedded in Germany (Kepler) or Pakistan (Beg), but also here in America; read, for example, the transcript (pdf) of Meeting 17: Session 6 of the 10 Jun 2014 Presidential Commission for the Study of Bioethical Issues, Atlanta, Ga, guest speaker Joshua Greene, and you will see a discussion of “whether there's angels in the universe” (pg. 17).”
A Jan 2018 screenshot of Hmolpedian elenovski (Ѻ), who characterizes his or her first ideology as “Thimsian atheist”, along with Dawkins number of 10, anarcho-communism, nihilism, and Yugoslav. |
“Re: ‘What branch of science explains buraq?’, Quran and Hadeth (record of Prophet’s sayings and actions) have made known to believers and non-believers that the Prophet was taken from Mecca to Jerusalem and to heaven with a buraq and Angel Gabriel to guide him in the tour to heaven and hell and tell him to perform the prayer and he prayed with all prophets and he came back to his bed in one night.
This is revealed in the Glorious Quran as follows: {Al-Israa, Glory be to Him Who made His servant to go on a night from the Sacred Mosque to the remote mosque of which We have blessed the precincts, so that We may show to him some of Our signs; surely He is the One who Hears, and Sees (1). And We gave Musa the Book and made it a guidance to the children of Israel, saying: Do not take a protector besides Me (2). The two verses imply that the Prophet was taken along as per the will of Allah to show the Prophet the ultimate for himself. I know it is hard for a highly intelligent person to believe in the existence of Buraq, which is described by Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, # 227 hadith: “I was brought by Buraq, which is an animal white and long, larger than a donkey but smaller than a mule, who would place its hoof at a distance equal to the range of vision.” (Implying speed of light)! There is no branch of science that may explain the operation of the flying horse (buraq) that Prophet Mohammad used for the Night Journey. However, this is one of those miracles which believers must have faith in. Doubts were cast at the outset but the Journey was authenticated by one his closest Associates saying that it must be true if the Prophet is saying so because He has never lied before. Same is my argument; call it blind faith but as argued earlier, belief in FAITH rules supreme. Research is ongoing on Myths, Legends and Miracles which upholds them and also rejects them. This leaves me no option but to cling to my theoretical explanation.”
Holbachian atheism = avowed atheism (deny god) + mortalism (deny afterlife)
Thimsian atheism = avowed atheism (deny god) + mortalism (deny afterlife) + abioism (deny life)
“Not only do I not believe in the principle of the afterlife, but also do not believe in the principle of life.”— Libb Thims (2012), personal note; written in black pen on printing paper, Sep 24
Hardcore extreme atheism = avowed atheism + mortalism + abioism + aspiritism + asoulism
Thimsian atheism | Descriptors | Via | Year | Ref | ||
0. | Age 5: atheism inquisitor | problem broached | ||||
1. | Aware of the problem (god problem); but kept in the back of the mind. | 1970s | |||
2. | Outward self-labeled, seemingly, as culturally-inoffensive "secular", if probed. | 1990s | |||
3. | 100% atheist; after discovering Gary Greenberg, following 50-70 book reading research on the so-called "religious origins" problem. | c.2003 | |||
4. | Implicit atheism [indirectly stated (e.g. the Journal of Human Thermodynamics was launched (2005), from the get-go, with rule (c) banning god theory (unless historical, religio-mythology, deconstruction, etc.); thermodynamics is atheist by definition] | Thims | 2005 | (Ѻ) | |
5. | In 2008 to 2007, while penning Human Chemistry, went to great lengths to AVOID using the term "god" or any related "god theory" terms, e.g. soul, spirit, etc, throughout the entire book, except until the last chapter, in the section on cessation thermodynamics, wherein the highest-ranked (by vote) present-day greatest philosophical conundrum, i.e. "What Happens When You Die?", as shown below, was broached via thermodynamics: | 2007 | |||
6. | 143% atheist; conversationally-forward atheism; e.g. “I’m level 10 on the Dawkins scale; don’t like the word ‘atheist’, like ‘scientist’ better.” | Thims | 2009 Sep 7 | [9] | |
7. | Avoidance atheist; e.g. while giving college human thermodynamics bioengineering lectures, e.g. on how Goethean chemical thermodynamics determines relationship reactions, morality, etc.; side-stepped and avoided the "elephant in the room" problem; the repercussions of which became apparent in student feedback letters (i.e. deeper topics weren't brought up openly in lecture, via hand raising; possibly owing to the cultural taboo-ness of the subject transgression). | 2010 | |||
8. | Became a blogged about "public atheist"; e.g. Thims is “a [life-denier] whose science is laced with extreme atheism and materialism.” | Sekhar | 2011 | [4] | |
9. | Printed-in-book atheist by definition; e.g. “a strong atheist who adheres to a physics-based [Goethean] morality.” | Bossens | 2013 | [5] | |
10. | On 13 May 2014, Thims discovered the physiochemical sociology work of Mirza Beg; in late May, Thims obtained a copy of of Beg’s 1987 New Dimensions in Sociology: a Physico-Chemical Approach to Human Behavior. [1] On 23 Jun 2014, Begs and Thims began communicating, via Hmolpedia messaging, and in some 189+ public thread dialogue interactions, over the course of two months, until 12 Sep 2014, during the course of which. | 20 | |||
11. | This was the proverbial "straw" that broke the camel's back, therein working to turn Thims from an "implicit atheist" (camel straining to present human chemical thermodynamics WITHOUT god talk) to an "explicit atheist" (unburdened camel presenting human chemical thermodynamics WITH god talk, albeit completely dismantled via the methods of: extreme atheism, greatest atheism scholarship, religio-mythology scholarship, and god terminology upgrade). | ||||
12. | In 17 Jun 2014, in the 44-page draft version of Chemical Thermodynamics: With Applications in the Humanities, this "god avoiding" route (carpet sweeping method) was still testingly being employed, via the method of subsuming the problem into the 3-page "Religion | Belief conflicts" section, of the preface, via citation to Pierre Laplace (1802), Wilhelm Ostwald (1909), and Paul Dirac (1933), and how god had been dismissed from celestial mechanics, physical chemistry, particle physics and sociology, respectively. | 2014 Jun 17 | |||
13. | On 11 Sep 2014, Thims started the Atheism Reviews YouTube channel and the page in Hmolpedia on Atheism Reviews. On 15 Sep 2014, Thims made an “Atheism Reviews” promo video (Ѻ). Over the next two months, Thims began ordering atheism books, via book orders from Amazon (see: Thims religio-mythology and atheism book collection). On 5 Nov 2014, Thims, together with Patrick Fergus, made their first PUBLIC “History of Atheism” (Ѻ) intro video (see: photos_, entering into the full-on PUBLIC ATHEISM engaging domain. | ||||
14. | Self-characterized (on video): “extreme atheist” (aka "extreme realism" believer); and referred to by others, e.g. Patrick Fergus, as "extreme". | Thims | 2014 | [8] | |
Defended the use, as on explicit atheist, of capital "G" in God (singular) and lower case "g" in "gods" (plural), in video: This was then the standard usage in Hmolpedia articles; in the year to follow, Thims saw the error in his ways, and thereafter began to lower case all "god" and "gods" usages, but to continue to capitalize named gods, such as Zeus, or Osiris. | 2014 Dec 23 | ||||
15. | Water-test (online) atheism type label: “electrochemical atheist” | Thims | 2015 Jun 30 | [7] | |
16. | Water-test (online) atheism type label: “extreme physiochemical materialism atheist” | Thims | 2015 Jul 3 | (Ѻ) | |
17. | Explicit atheism: have "atheism type" explicitly defined, per denial (six main), belief (six main), and by top 28 historical atheism brands composition (see: atheism types by denial and belief). | 2015 Jul 7 | |||
18. | On 10 Aug 2015, taught "Zerotheism for Kids" class, a stylized Sunday school for atheists. | 2015 Aug | |||
19. | Attempted to draft "atheist's bible" for kids, aka a Children's Atheist Bible, resulting in a draft Smart Atheism: for Kids (see: smart atheism). | 2016 |
An image shown to kids during the 2015 Zerotheism for Kids class, as an example of nonsense that modern kids are taught. |
The three "god hypothesis" is obsolete and therefore unneeded quotes in Thims' 2013 draft Chemical Thermodynamics: with Application in the Humanities, the "Religious Tension" intro section. [3] |
Mirza Beg’s admittance that he believes in Muhammad’s flying horse and simultaneously that Gibbs energy differentials govern human spontaneities, caused Thims to switch from implicit atheism to explicit atheism. |
Here, we see that without being explicit and open about that fact that thermodynamics, physics, and chemistry are god-free subjects, an unaddressed tension remains. This was one of the turning points that worked to move Thims, in circa 2014, into becoming an explicit atheist; see, e.g., the tabulated listing of "atheism types (by denial)" wherein each denial (disbelief) and belief (creed) of each type of atheism, with respect to each type of scientist, is "explicitly" stated.
A Jun 2015 draft-cover (Ѻ) for tentative 80-120 page booklet entitled Morality Squared: on the Goethean-Feuerbach Prophesy and the Nietzschean Void, an elaboration on Ludwig Feuerbach’s famous 1850 nitric acid [HNO3] quote + Goethe’s 1809 sulphuric acid [H2SO4] based “moral symbols” explaining P1:C4 and Ten Commandments overthrowing P2:C18 end chapter (see: Goethean revolution). |
“I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use.”— Galileo Galilei (c.1630) (Ѻ)
“I do not feel obliged to believe that same god who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use.”— Galileo Galilei (c.1630) (Ѻ)
“Arrogants like Eddington, despite his achievements, are the cause as to why people like Libb Thims fall from one position to another lower position. First Libb argued that life is a defunct theory to justify the application of classical version of the second law of thermodynamics to living systems, ignoring statistical thermodynamics. Then to justify ‘life is a defunct theory’ he argues that his actions and behavior or not ‘self-controlled’ or ‘self-driven’ [see: self-motion] but are governed by external electromagnetic forces. Arrogance leads to ignorance and scientific blindness as we noted from the example of Eddington and Nobel laureate Chandra Sekhar. Libb Thims’ science is laced with extreme atheism and materialism and hence his precarious position. Science needs to be kept at equal distance and away from both atheism and theism. I can’t stop but laugh at myself when I think that I am not alive or I am not moving myself.”— DMR Sekhar (2011), “Eddington’s Psycho-Syndrome”
“Libb Thims is a strong atheist, adheres to a physics-based morality, and considers himself a Goethean revolutionist.”— David Bossens (2013), Debates of the Hmolpedians [5]
“Libb Thims [penned] his human chemistry, and he’s also a hella fkn epic atheist.”— Anon (2015), Science & Math thread, Warosu.org. May 2.